Tuesday, October 2, 2012

Class Notes - 10-02-12


Began class by reading over the instructions for the upcoming Lilly Assignment.

Notes to consider while doing the project:

                What might you search for that may feed another past, present, or future project? (keep your own individual research goals in mind)

                If you have methodological question about what we’ve studied, consider how your selected item might problematize those theories or prompt other questions?

                This is an excellent opportunity to work cross-disciplinarily.

                Keep in mind that the card catalogue uses an archaic system of terms!

                Lilly Hours:

                                Monday to Friday – 9:00am to 6:00pm

                                Saturday – 9:00am – 1:00pm

                                Sunday – Closed

 Discussion of Blog Posts:

Amy: What was it like to do? Do you have specific feedback concerning the experience?

Sara: It was a fun exercise; I live in a small home with my partner who I told I needed to do some homework, he was skeptical when he saw me watching the collection of videos on Cody’s blog; His interest in the videos prompted a conversation that led him to ask, “How do all of the these separate videos relate to each other?”

Amy: I love that question; we need to always be asking ourselves those questions of our work

Jess: it is good to see someone else trying to figure out what your are attempting; additionally nice to receive some praise; felt a responsibility to be honest and careful about what she said concerning the other person’s work (i.e., to honor Derek’s work on his blog)

Derek: also felt the need to be careful in responding, partially due to friendship with other course participants, but didn’t just want to say nice things

Ming: And you were right with your criticism – the ideas don’t yet cohere and I needed to hear that

Derek: and that’s not a failing, the ideas don’t need to cohere; it makes me want to hear more about these connections or to explore them on my own

Jennifer: it did feel a bit like having Big Brother monitor the work; but nice to hear someone else state a view of what is being explored on my blog

Jess: been lurking on some of the blogs; it is good to see how other people write and good to see work of people in different fields

Sara: for those new to blogging, always seems to be a fun post that helps break open the idea of virtual work and to begin providing metacommentary on the work that’s being produced; as it becomes an archive, it has relevance to all of our individual projects

Kelly: love to have the chance to complain and to see that others enjoy having that opportunity; but also to see how someone can then go into the complaint and explore what else may be behind those rants

Amy: Explain what the value in that is

Kelly: by digging into the rants, it gives more of a semblance of credibility and it is also good to possibly begin to embrace other opinions

Derek: hard to find time to write about things in the that I want; the blog becomes more like an annotated bibliography with thoughts that I want to come back to later; but because it is public, it feels like it needs to be polished – I have drafts of ideas but find it hard to come back to them and make them publishable

Justin: absolutely agree; this assignment forced the issue of putting material out into a public space for others to view, but also forces me to eventually address those loose strands

Andrea: need to post something that will point the direction of where this is going

Whitney: the mystery of what is going on in the blog posts could be really exciting

Jenna: really appreciate structuring of Whitney’s blog; images connect to the text, captions tie images back to text, interaction with blog connects all of the pieces

Andrea: use of personal photos adds interesting dynamic to Jenna’s blog

Jess: making the archive personal is a very important point; yes, it may look self-indulgent, but maybe that’s not a bad thing; forces me to reflect on how my life experience is important to my research; generally, we tend to hid behind facts – opening up to the personal allows us to step out from behind these

Mind: quick question – how did blogs begin?

Sara: internet forums transitioned into online journals – instead of multiple individuals using the space to interact concerning a topic, the forums tended to become diary spaces for an individual; this platform was adapted into commercial forms giving us our weblogs; also related to early forms of RSS feeds, where a person could request to be sent the multiple entries by a person which would then be sent in a collected form to their email

Ellen: to consult Big Brother, the work you do there is related to practical/research projects; should have a use-value for you; important that you find something that is worth returning to in the future; this exercise gave a better idea of the numerous forms that a useful blog post can take; don’t worry about your method – I generally collect a quote and provide a quick gloss on what it means and why I find it important, but that is just my own practice; be strange in your practice if that is what you need to do; Do you want to say something about the personal ideas that came out from the feedback you received?

Whitney: the idea of absence that Jenna saw in my blog was really eloquent and is completely new to me; it’s a really valuable tool for looking at how I ask questions

Jess: other that a good pat on the back, to see Iris’s response to personal stuff made me realize that I do write a story as I do scholarly work; I want to make a reader’s heart fire, not just the reader’s head; realized how important it is to think about the architecture of what I am doing in my writing

Amy: it is easy for us to forget the centrality of narrative to theoretical writing; use of narrative can make such work more persuasive and more likely to ‘stick’; we must attend to emotion strategically in what we write; there is a performance to doing scholarship and we must use a discerning eye when viewing performance; Where does it help you and where does it not?; How you perform scholarship and identity is important to your work

Ellen: blogs have an ability to orchestrate juxtapositions in scholarship that are not allowed elsewhere; they have the ability to deploy multiple forms of media all within the same site; this makes the curation of a personal blog/archive very valuable over time; How will we be publishing in the future?; Books make use of pictures and text, but will it always be that way?; Let’s turn to the articles, which were meant to give you ways other scholars document things and to allow us to think about their different approaches

Dorothy: viewing photographs in a scriptive way; not just looking at a single object, and the objects viewed work on multiple levels; Wexler doesn’t look at history of the ’type’ of photograph she is studying; it is a problem but opens us up to new questions, not just the history of the image

Ellen: uses broader strokes?

Dorothy: Yes – but doesn’t get to history of the image as an icon

Ellen: Wexler picks from the archive carefully; long traditions, purpose is to set up sentimental purposes and work against it; make a way of puncturing usual way of reading such images; were you satisfied?

Jess: see page 167; it must exist; idea that photography is always objective, but through historical context see how it is not objective; the photograph is not plain objective truth

Ellen: anekphrasis is a very valuable tool; What is methodologically successful and what is not?

Dorothy: Wexler makes many assumptions about what her reader would agree with her about, which made me struggle to agree with her reading; for instance, can we really be sure that the baby in the image is not the child of the woman holding it?

Jennifer: Wexler makes an attempt to escape this problem on page 161; her really significant failure is to set up various methodological terms in the beginning of the article and then not return to them in her study

Derek: after setting it up, punctum returns only one more time in the text; what happened to the rest of her terms?

Jennifer: Wexler seems to only need parts of the framework she sets up

Amy: Wexler is reading sentiment in photographs in subtle ways; How? Does she need the methods she sets up? Does her argument about sentiment bear resemblance to Freud and Lacan?

Dorothy: yes, it does, especially in her reading of the dialect poetry; this is where I connected her notion of ‘sentiment’ with that of the Pre-Reconstruction South; wish this had been addressed or set up earlier in the article

 Ellen: the article is from 1997 and the terms have shifted since Wexler produced this work; What was her definition?

Courtney: that is the problem I encountered in the text; it was clear she wasn’t pointing just to emotion, but it was unclear what else it might entail

Ellen: she give us a small piece where she suggests it as a mode for class to use in social elevation; it is part of a long historical moment where the middle class was building and photography is being attached to this rise; sentiment is normally addressed as an aesthetic achievement ( consider novels); it is hard to recover this historical moment without disparaging it; consider the family album of photos placed next to the Bible which Wexler includes as her example – highlights the powers of inculcating sentiment

Derek: How it makes a house a home, but I like what she’s setting up, her methodology seemed to be identifying the stadium and then locate the punctum; it appeared theoretically interdisciplinary – Marx, psychoanalytic, reading images

Ellen: are you not convinced that they belong together?

Derek: no – what put me off, she seems (page 163); attack in order to show what she’s doing is relevant; felt unfair

Amy: What is she doing with the Family of Man example?

Jess: linking it to sentimentality?; exploring what middle class did when it built itself up

Ellen: highlights a piece of literature which stops to analyze a piece of art, it is meta-artistic; Wexler is teasing Updike for his rediscovery of an artist’s notice of art; What does anekphrasis do?

Derek: Wexler seems to point out that photographers/everyone (except possibly feminists) have been ignoring images

Dorothy: No, Wexler calls out feminists critics as well; she seems to set up a high-low dichotomy where masculine view aligns with high and feminist view connects to low; to include this in the discussion seems odd

Derek: I understand that, but I’m not convinced that there isn’t anyone doing this kind of work

Courtney: I think it’s useful because people so often fall into the trap of taking photographs as historical truth

Ellen: certain sites are considered less important and Wexler is pointing out these blind spots; rhetorically it feels heavy-handed, but her imagined readers likely don’t see it this way; consider page 176, forced to ask what is intrinsic to an image and what do we bring to it ourselves

Dorothy: brought up texts of direct narrative of women who were slaves, these bring in reading into it; counter views naturally filter in (i.e., viewer could just as easily project ideas onto the baby’s gaze)

Amy: same ephemerality exists for performance as it does for photography; a scholar has to be really good about what is pointed to as evidence; trying to train themselves to read photography in a way that hasn’t been learned sufficiently

Ellen: both articles desire to make an evidentiary turn; scriptive quality of photo pushes you to make a statment about what is ‘merely’ factual and it is almost impossible to resist that temptation; photos leave questions open, and almost demand some kind of narrative quality; consider Hodgdon’s article – it is useful that some of the same theory gets played out here; What is transportable in this study?

Jennifer: important to note that photos (specifically photos of theatrical performance) aren’t always true – often staged, and often aren’t what was actually staged in the performance; also, considering who is taking the photograph is important and their intention for the photograph; set in context, theatre photos can provide historical information

Dorothy: reminded of Courtney’s blog post where she noted a ‘lifelike drawing’ on my personal blog – the image is actually a photograph but looks artificial; first time to consider how a photo could point out what or how a performance happened

Ellen: one thing, textbooks mandate that photos be used – especially true for those time periods when photography had become a part of popular culture; the text seems to mandate what photos are to be used, but they just reaffirm what is already said; some of the images are so familiar, we no longer see them anymore, we simply gloss over them; Do photos just shore up what is said or can they do more for a text?

Derek: connects to Wexler, considering the performance of everyday life; eventually we don’t look at photos displayed in our own homes, they are no longer representative of what was actually going on

 Amy: one central idea – the stills fix yet also escape the performance [compare to baby due dates]; photographs stage the audience just as fixed as the events that they depict [it is possible that no one had the view suggested by the photo]; Concerning photographic evidence, what is capable of being said and what is not?

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